Tuesday, 9 September 2014

(Q) Assalaam Alaikum – My name is Haji Muhammed.
Brother Zakir… Brother Zakir, you mentioned in your
talk that Jesus never claimed Divinity. But it is
mentioned in the Bible that Jesus said… ‘I and my
father are one’ Does this not simply that he claimed
Divinity?
(Dr. Zakir) Brother has asked a question that I said in
my talk, that nowhere does the Bible say ‘that Jesus
Christ (peace be upon him) claimed Divinity’ - And he
gave a quotation of the Bible, that Jesus said ‘I and my
father one’. What the brother is quoting is, a verse from
the Bible, in the Gospel of John, Ch. No.10, Verse
No.30, which does say… ‘I and my father are one’. But
when you ask the Christian missionaries, that… ‘What
is the context?’ I have not yet met a Christian
missionary, who can tell you the context without
opening the Bible. He knows ‘I and my father are one’,
but he does not know the context. For example, if I
quote to someone, that the Qur’an says, ‘Does not pray’
- Most of the Muslims would be shocked - what am I
saying? And if you open it up, it says… ‘Do not pray’ -
but its half the verse. Surah Nisa Ch.4, Verse No.43,
says ‘Do not pray with your mind befogged’ - Do not
pray when you are intoxicated. So if I only quote… Do
not pray - It will mean Qur’an says, ‘Don’t pray’ – half
the quotation. So for the context, ‘I and my father are
one’ - you have to go to the Gospel of John, Ch. No.10,
Verse No. 23, and I am quoting from my memory, that
‘Jesus walked into the temple, in Solomon’s porch’.
Verse No. 24 says, and the Jews came around him and
asked him. ‘How long does thou make us doubt? - If
thou art the Christ, tell us plainly’. Verse No.25 says, ‘I
told you, but you believe me not - the works that I do in
my father’s name, - they bear witness of me. Verse
No.26 says that, ‘you believe not because you are not
my sheep, as I said unto you’.
The Jews, they are asking Jesus Christ (peace be upon
him) that ‘Why don’t you speak plainly?’. So he tells
them that…‘Yes I am the Messiah - I have told you
clearly, but because you are not my sheep, you don’t
believe in me. Verse No.27 continues…Jesus Christ
(peace be upon him) continues saying that… ‘My sheep
- they hear my voice, and I know them - and they follow
me. Verse No.28, that… ‘I give them eternal life - no
man can pluck them out of my hand, and they shall not
perish’. Verse No.29 says ‘My father who giveth to me,
He is greater than all - No man can pluck them out of
my father’s hand. Then Verse No. 30 says, ‘I and my
father are one’ – ‘Any person who has little bit sense
can make out, ‘I and my father are one’ doesn’t mean
one - as one person. It means one is purpose. Verse
No.28 says, ‘No man can pluck them out of my hand –
Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) says- ‘No man can
pluck them out of my hand’. Verse No.29 is saying. ‘No
man can pluck them out of my father’s hand’. Verse
No.30 says ‘I and my father are one’ -In purpose. Both
Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and Almighty God -
they are one in purpose. If I say that my father is a
doctor… and he is a doctor… Alhamdulillah - Even I am
a medical doctor. If I say, ‘I and my father are one’ -
What does it mean? It means one in purpose - As
medical profession, my father is a doctor - Even I am a
doctor. It doesn’t mean that ‘I and my father are one’. It
means my father is a medical doctor - even I am a
medical doctor. But Christians say ‘No.. No – it means
‘one’ - actual Unity. So we say… ‘Okay, you say actual
unity… let us read further’. If you go ahead in the
Gospel of John, Ch. No.17, Verse No.21, it says that,
Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said that… ‘Ye all of
them are one - My father in me, and I in thee, we all are
one’.
‘Does it mean that God Almighty, is in Jesus Christ…
and Jesus Christ is in all his 12 disciples. So there will
be 14 gods - Jesus Christ, God Almighty, and 12
disciples. The same ‘one’ is used there, and here. If you
go to the source, the same word is used - If you go to
the Greek… the same word is used - So does it mean
you have 14 gods? And among those disiples, Judas was
a traitor -. Even he is God? Thomas doubted Jesus
Christ (peace be upon him ) - is he God? - ‘Peter’ - Jesus
Christ says … ‘is satanic?’- Is he also God? No, - all of
them, God Almighty - Jesus Christ and the Apostles,
are one in purpose - they are same. Again if you go 2
verses ahead - Gospel of John, Ch. 17, Verse 23, says
that, ‘I am in thee, and you are in me’… he tells the
disciples. Does it make all them God? No! It means one
in purpose. But then Christians will say, ‘I have quoted
the first part... why don’t you quote after that... after
Verse No.30 - Gospel of John Chapter 10. Lets go ahead
- Gospel of John, Ch. No. 10, Verse No.31. says, ‘And
Jews picked up stones again, to stone at Jesus (peace be
upon him) Verse No. 32, says… ‘And Jesus (peace be
upon him) asked them - for which of the good works of
my father, do you stone me?’ Verse No. 33, says
that…‘We don’t’ stone you for any good works, but
because you blashpheme – being a man, you call
yourself God – that is why we stone you’. Verbatim…I
am reading from my memory - Any person who wants
to check up, can check up. It is there in the Bible -
Gospel of John, Ch. 10, Verse 23 onwards… I am
quoting. So Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) gives the
answer - the Jews say that see he is trying to
blaspheme, calling himself ‘God’.
Good riddance - they want to kill him - good riddance.
The Christians say ooh! the Jews called him God
Almighty - See they understood him correctly - for
redemption. One wants for redemption - they are
calling him God - the other group of people for good
riddance. But the answer is given in the next verse -
Verse no. 34, of John Ch. 10, Gospel of John, Ch. 10,
says that…‘Is it not mentioned in your Scriptures that
ye are gods? - and if the person to whom the word’ of
God came … if he says… ‘god’ - the Scripture is not
broken. If you check up in the Bible, in the Psalms, Ch.
No. 82, Verse No.6, does say that, ‘Ye are gods’. So
Jesus Christ gave the answer, that the person to whom
the ‘Word’ of God came, if you call him ‘God’, it is not
blaspheme. It is meaning that… they are one in
purpose. Hope that answers the question


eternal life means what ? to follow his commandment,
Read the bibl Gospel of Mathew Ch 19 Verse 17-20. "If
you want to enter into kingdom of heavens ? keep the
commandment" this is how you get eternal life. Jesus
said gospal of Mark Ch 12 Verse 29 "Hear you is Israel
your lord, your God is one God.

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